A Look at the Format

Another PPG webcam qualifier has passed us by and the perceived meta game continues to do some moving and shaking coming off of the Pro-Play Tour just last weekend.

Top 16 of the Pro-Play Tour – Invoker Winner

5x Dark Broly
4x Mecha Frieza
1x Reboot Gohan
1x Turles
1x Invoker
1x Launch
1x Syn Shenron
1x Red Broly
1x Clashku

The narrative of top 16 – with 5 copies of Dark Broly and 4 copies of Mecha it is very easy to tell that public enemy number 1 heading into the event was Red Broly. With these more mid-range decks making it into top 16, they fell prey to both ends of the spectrum – leader based aggro of Gohan and Turles, and of course Invoker being the overall winner in the finals.

Top 8 of the Webcam Qualifier – Red Broly Winner

2x Red Broly
2x Reboot Gohan
1x King Piccolo
1x Turles
1x Golden Frieza
1x Mecha Frieza

The narrative of top 8 – with 2 true mid-range strategies and the rest of cut being more aggro we are able to see that players this week were trying to punish Invoker, Mecha Frieza, and Dark Broly. With decks like Turles and Reboot Gohan punishing those three strategies, it left quite a large opening for Red Broly to reclaim the throne this week due to the fragile nature of Dormant decks. Another thing to keep in mind – look at these decks in top cut; the only one that is truly weak to Mechikabura is Red Broly. This is another reason why Dark Broly took a step back.

What I Would Have Played this Weekend

There have been so many builds of Dark Broly to come out over the past few weeks, and I have spent a ton of time in the lab myself – in preparation for the chains coming off (official today). In the case of this list there are a few main deck inclusions that stand out:

3x SS Bardock, the Tenacious – in a world of aggro decks, opposing mechikaburas trying to timewalk you, and having to worry about tech cards like Dark Banisher, Dark Masked King, etc. Tenacious is a brilliant way to answer them all and the card stays incredibly relevant in a ton of match-ups.

2x Super Kamehameha – This is a main deck concession to Toppo, Heroic Prospect, and anything else that costs 3 or less and could ruin our best turns. Additionally, this can serve as well timed removal against aggro as well.

The Board – Simple and On Purpose

Our sideboard plan is meant to give us more of an edge against Reboot Gohan while still having a ton of cards that hit a lot of match-ups without having to truly sacrifice our deck’s integrity – this is probably the most important part about side-boarding right now.

Reboot Gohan

Against Reboot Gohan our plan is to get our money out of the thiccest blocker in the game alongside Brainwashed and Kai SCR:


Similar plan for Reboot Gohan, but since the clock is not as fast we actually need to shift to more removal and add in Dark Powers to be able to punish the Crusher Corp.

Red Broly

Step 1: Dark Power Black Masked Saiyan
Step 2: Mechikabura
Step 3: SS Bardock, the Tenacious
Step 4: Mechikabura again or kill the batman

Blue Decks

We need to punish their counter game and then increase our removal potential. The only change occurs if they’re playing Obuni in game 1, then you may want to bring in Dark Power Black Masked Saiyans as well.

King Piccolo

Mechikabura is so bad in this matchup, so we instead opt for some Dark Powers and then sacrifice some 30ks in order to give us access to a board wipe to go along Tenacious in the main. We keep Super Kamehamehas in here in order to help combat Toppo, Righteous Aid.


Another case of Mechikabura being bad so we opt again for Dark Powers and then Secret Identity to go alongside our Tenacious D. Super Kamehameha gets to come out here since there are no viable targets, nor targets you really care about.


Arguably our worst match-up, but also not expected to do well this weekend since it won last weekend. We know we have to be aggressive so we cut some defense in order to help counter their pile of negates.

The Format is an Onion – IT HAS LAYERS!!!

Red Broly
Syn Shenron
Dark Broly
Reboot Gohan
Vegeks/Gogeta Xeno
King Piccolo
and MORE!!!

A lot of the community has spent time trying to define this format and it has led to a ton of discussion. There are a few ways to try and simplify it, so let me give you some of the most high level views I have seen expressed so far:

Frisco’s Way – The Two Extremes and Nothing in the Middle Beats Both

Red Broly

Everything else


The Triangle

Red Broly


Dark Broly

The Spectrum

Hyper Aggro – A. Red Broly, B. King Piccolo, C. Vegeks, D. Gogeta Xeno

Dormant Decks – A. Reboot Gohan, B. Turles

Interactive – A. Dark Broly, B. Mecha, C. Launch

Control – A. Invoker, B. Syn Shenron

The way I tend to look at this format is more so on a spectrum for each of the decks that share a common thread and then rank them in order of what deck is the best option based on the previous week’s meta game. The information listed above is based off of the information from the Pro-Play Tour in preparation for the 1/31 webcam event.

Dormant and Invoker overperformed at the PPT which means that I want to be on Red Broly if I am aggressive to be able to punish Dormant. I also would want to be on Dark Broly if I am looking to be interactive since 30 bodies punish Dormant as well. Red Broly also gets the nod over Invoker, and Dark Broly just needs to be prepared for the match-up where as the other mid-range decks have no shot. On the other hand, if I wanted to play a Dormant deck I would opt for Reboot Gohan since the clock is much faster against the other 3 archetypes.

Let’s look again at the top 8 from this past weekend:

2x Red Broly
2x Reboot Gohan
1x King Piccolo
1x Turles
1x Golden Frieza
1x Mecha Frieza

How should this information impact the spectrum?

Red Broly still remains the best option because if aggro and Dormant show up, Broly is still the best option to combat both.

For Dormant based decks, if Red Broly is king – then I want to be on Reboot Gohan so I can fight in the phone booth with them.

Mecha and Dark Broly both get worked over by Reboot Gohan, Turles, and King Piccolo – it seems Launch has the best shot here.

For control, if Red Broly is option A, Reboot Gohan is option A, and Launch is option A – then I for sure want to be on Syn Shenron this week.


This format is absurdly good, and for the first time in a good while it feels like there is solid meta game churn on a weekly basis that allows for new decks to claim the top spot in their respective archetype. The challenge then becomes – are you willing to put in the work? If yes, you’ll be heavily rewarded with solid tournament performance. If no, then you will stay behind every single week. Reading formats isn’t easy, and trying to simplify them is such a difficult task and can often lead to mistakes in deck selection or preparation. My advice is to learn the potential of what each top deck can do going forward and learn how to break down the most important cards and interactions within the format. There is a huge reason why Mechikabura 2 drop went from being the best battle card in the game last weekend, to mediocre this week – things ALWAYS change, so be ready!

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Crusher Corps – This is the Way

The Turles hype train has started to gain some steam as we continue to close in on the official release date of Vicious Rejuvenation! Yesterday, we released our deep dive into ACEC and today I want to take sometime to talk about how the Turles deck functions, the card selections made to optimize ACEC, and of course how I think Turles stacks up to the rest of the format.

Looking for the KO

Turles is definitely a fresh archetype when it comes to the introduction of the Crusher Corps alongside the Tree of Might being planted on the opponent’s side of the field to act as your deck’s engine. The truth is, this is basically just a aggro/mid-range strategy that leans on the leader to be the win condition – akin to set 1 Blue Vegeta, Reboot Gohan, etc. The difference is that you ALWAYS have access to your over-statted FDC to get the job done. As the game ramps up and comes to a close you simply become vintage George Foreman looking for an opening to land your KO punch. The twist is, once awakened you now get to choose what life your opponent takes – such a boon in a world where you’re looking to deal multiple points of damage in a single turn to close out the game.

Chapter 1: The Early Awakening

Awakening as early as possible and flipping up as much life as possible in the first couple of turns is exactly where you want to be. Of course it gets tough playing a bunch of cards with Unique, but ultimately the deck NEEDS it in order to start pulling ahead early so that every swing with a Turles card can become lethal as the game winds down.

On the play you have the option to either deploy your 1 drop Turles, play a Demigra Unison, or leave open Kill Driver. Once you pass turn, your opponent will flip one life up, at this point your opponent is either at one life face up, or two based on whether you played Turles on 1, or used Kill Driver. From here you can then swing with Turles 1 drop, activate the auto to combo from the top of the deck, then use the [Activate: Battle] on Turles 3 to play it and then flip the 3rd life face up so you can then trigger the awakening still during the combo step. Once that happens, you’re now sitting at a high life total and have gained access to choosing how you want your leader’s damage to be taken the rest of the game. You also then gain access to the leader’s [Activate: Main] to keep recycling your Fruits from the drop area and ensure you always have one in deck to grab on the opponent’s turn when the Tree triggers.

Going second it gets tricky since you won’t have the ability to trigger Tree on the opponent’s first turn due to the energy requirement. On your first turn you will always swing leader first before playing anything just to gain as much information as possible and to dodge any sort of removal for your 1 drop. You then can play the 1 drop, Demigra, or leave energy open for Kill Driver. Turn 2 once 1 to 2 are face up you then go whichever route you have left available to you to get the 3rd so you get the early awakening.

The early awakening always leads towards your best games, things get complicated when your opponent has the ability to take their own life with various abilities. This is why Demigra is so important – to offer you an easy way to getting to 4 life if that is how you’re forced to awaken.

Chapter 2: The Bois

The Crusher Corp offers you quite a bit of value. The fact that they are free bodies that come into play when you combo is already enough upside, but with Lakasei and Rasin you’re guaranteed a Blocker and the ability to loot (draw 1, discard 1). Amond is the perfect singleton since it gives us additional flexibility in our removal suite. Cacao is our super combo and can be found off of our leader skill or Turles 1 drop at any point in the game. Daiz is just a consistency generator that allows us to see more copies of our best cards, including Cacaaaoooooooooooooo.

Chapter 3: Demigra is the Stimulus Package

The best 1 drop in the entire game that then enables a source for awakening and the early abuse of the best defensive duo in the game – Captain Charisma and Dormant Potential Unleashed. Demigra is good in every spot and drawing multiples rarely feels bad since in some spots you’re 100% down to just have a hexproof 15k attacker that can’t be countered. Dormant helps us keep games in reach when they have the potential of getting away from us, and Frieza acts as a catch all against any deck reliant on specific cards hitting the battlefield.

There are always other options available for the Unison slot, but as we discussed yesterday it is really difficult to spend your entire 2 to 3 energy on just 1 singular Unison when paying just 1 energy nets you so much more value and opens up more actions per turn overall in those crucial first 3 turns. Lastly, turn 1 Unison into Captain Charisma is just too powerful in a format where Red Broly: Br exists.

Chapter 4: The Sweet Science

In Turles, you’re never short on win conditions due to the leader’s ability to always have access to Fruit of the Tree of Might. This is our hammer, our Dark Saber, our Mjolnir – you get it. The best part about Fruit is that the [Double Strike] portion works for both your leader and Turles Battle Cards. This means that any 1 drop, 3 drop, or 4 (in rare occasions) can threaten lethal damage – this is exactly how the deck gains the advantage and wins. The opponent has to worry about every Turles swing, which means all of their resources become devoted to stopping it from happening; and of course once a swing does go through it is way too powerful to out combo a large majority of the time.

Cosmic Rogue is a situational closer at times depending on the opposing player’s access to floodgates and counters once it comes down. At times, Turles will be the absolute best draw, but more often you never want to deploy him – this is why he is at 2 copies.

Demonic Evil is our SCR of choice because having access to a Bad Ring Laser type effect with access to Fruit of the Tree of Might targeting any of your Turles Battle Cards just feels amazing overall. Definitely a needed SCR for this style of deck!

Chapter 5: The Complete Main Deck

The last additions are 2x Shocking Death Ball, 2x Master Roshi, Kamehameha Origins, and 2x Secret Identity Black Masked Saiyan. Shocking Death Ball acting as a free negate the large percentage of the time is clutch, and the upside of being a hard negate that kills a relevant body is exactly the type of value we are looking for in Turles. Roshi of course is an auto include in some number due to the versatility. Secret Identity Black Masked Saiyan is just a clean answer to most singular threats and of course if boards happen to go wide.

***Yes, the list is 51 cards… but the Tree goes to the opponent’s side to start the game bb***

Chapter 6: The Metrics

Demigra Unison – 1, 1, 1, 1
Turles 4 – 2, 2
Turles 3 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Turles 1 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Fruit – 1, 1, 1
Kill Driver – 1, 1, 1
Buu SCR – 3
Shocking Death Ball (Sparking at least 50% of time) – 1
Roshi – 1, 1

This version of Turles comes in at an ACEC of 0.56 with a total cost of 28 out of 50 cards being played in the deck – this is the same ACEC rating as King Piccolo.

Chapter 7: Potential Sideboard

Against Syn Shenron

-2x Secret Identity Masked Saiyan
-2x Shocking Death Ball
-2x Roshi
-1x Rasin
-1x Dormant Potential Unleahsed

+3x Mechikabura
+3x Amond
+1x Dark King’s Flash
+1x Turles, Cosmic Rogue

The idea here is to steer away from our mid-range plan and make the deck more aggressive while also giving us the ability to disrupt key turns, remove Syn Shenron 9 drop, and have Dark King’s Flash as a fail safe if the game goes that long.

Against Red Broly: Br

-3x Kill Driver
-2x Secret Identity Masked Saiyan
-2x Turles, Cosmic Rogue

+3x Dark Power Black Masked Saiyan
+3x Mechikabura
+1x Roshi

Against Red Broly: Br the idea is to steer harder into the mid-range plan and focus on the disruption aspect while leaning into Fruit of the Tree of Might as our singular win condition. Siding out SIMS feels awkward, but not as awkward as having 8 black cards in our deck post board – just leaves too much room for RNG to get in the way. Being on the play with the ability to access Unison or Dark Power just feels too good to pass up. From there if you then go turn two Mechikabura to turn off the Broly Chain, you now have a vice grip on the match.

Against King Piccolo

-3x Kill Driver
-2x Turles, Cosmic Rogue
-1x Amond

+3x Dark Power Black Masked Saiyan
+2x Heart Arrow of Love
+1x Master Roshi

Against King Piccolo the plan is to stay balanced, but bring in removal and disruption that lines up better. DPBMS is a catch all that requires an answer, Heart Arrow of Love allows us to pick off some Demon Clan acolytes, and Roshi gives us more of everything we want.

Against Reboot Gohan

-2x Turles, Cosmic Rogue
-1x Kill Driver

+1x Dark King’s Flash
+1x Shocking Death Ball
+1x Master Roshi

The key to beating Reboot Gohan – don’t let them touch you.

Against Vegeks

-3x Kill Driver
-1x Amond

+3x Dark Power Black Masked Saiyan
+1x Master Roshi

Against revamped Vegeks the assumption is that we will need more copies of Dormant and a way to disrupt their free plays – DPBMS and Roshi should be enough.

Against Dark Broly

-3x Daiz
-3x Kill Driver
-2x Secret Identity Masked Saiyan

+3x Mechikabura
+3x Amond
+1x Master Roshi
+1x Shocking Death Ball

Against Dark Broly we want to shift our removal towards Amond since it is much easier to enable without having to commit right away, as opposed to Kill Driver. Mechikabura is the card that bridges us to wherever we want to be since the card shuts the whole entire deck down. Roshi and Shocking Death Ball add more ways to defend the 30k attacks without overextending defensively.

Against Green Gotenks

-3x Daiz
-2x Turles, Cosmic Rogue
-1x Rasin

+3x Mechikabura
+3x Amond

We are way better at beating Dormant Potential Unleased then they are and our deck post board absolutely shuts down Gotenks 6 drop. Between Kill Driver, Amond, SIMS, and Captain Charisma – they can’t touch this.

Against Invoker

-4x Dormant Potential Unleashed
-2x Secret Identity Masked Saiyan
-1x Rasin

+3x Mechikabura
+3x Amond
+1x Turles, Cosmic Rogue

We go full aggro by leaning more into Cosmic Rogue coming down the turn we play Mechikabura to keep them off of their invoker enabler.

Chapter 8: Make ‘Em Go Night-Night

If you have stuck with me this far you can see how Turles has the potential to make an impact on the upcoming format. What I think I enjoy the most about the deck is the fact that it can pivot so well between aggro and mid-range within the entirety of your 65. Of course the downfall of the deck is its reliance on a Crusher Corps package to actually function, but the upside of their effects opens up a ton of options and decisions for the pilot – which of course I adore. If anything Turles is a solid choice in series 12 due to having more agency over your games. Your decisions truly matter in this deck and your sequencing has to be spot on whilst you try and dodge the landmines that exist in the format. My 65 certainly isn’t perfect, but for ME it has felt the best so far. The deck takes a TON of practice, and I am in love with that. You can’t just pick it up one time and master it, it takes a bunch of match experience to truly see and feel the power level of the deck.

Thanks for reading!


The Importance of ACEC in Modern DBS

ACEC – Average Converted Energy Cost

Akin to most other resource based TCG’s, the longer a game is in development – the cheaper (cost wise) and more powerful cards have to become in order to create churn within current formats and give incentive to players to buy the new cards to remain competitive in whichever environment they decide to play in.

With this knowledge comes the need to adapt and be able to read the room, so to speak, when a new set releases and you’re trying to determine competitive viability of both new and older archetypes that have been juiced up from the new set. The best metrics for this task fall on the shoulders of my two favorite things: Actions Per Turn (APT) and Average Converted Energy Cost (ACEC).

At this point in time I believe I have gone over Actions Per Turn at length (TL;DR the more you do on a turn, the better), so today I want to spend my time on Average Converted Energy Cost – especially with Vicious Rejuvenation on the horizon, and the many new archetypes primed to make an impact on the meta game!

Breaking it Down

ACEC is calculated by looking over your deck list and counting each card and its in-game cost, then averaging it out by the total number of cards counted. When I state “in-game” cost, I mean the cost you’re more than likely to be paying for it – ex: Great Ape Bardock, Raider’s Warcry is a 4 cost Battle Card, but I will be playing it most often for the 2 energy combo cost so I count it as a 2 cost when calculating my deck’s ACEC. Another example would be the “free” counter plays enabled by Unisons, I would definitely count those as 0 – this is a huge reason why Unisons are so important in modern deck building, but more on that later.

There is always such a clear distinction between the best decks in a format and those that slightly miss due to their ACEC just falling short of that “tier 1” status. Today I want to take a look at the maximum potential of a few decks and calculate their Average Converted Energy Cost just so you can see how this metric does truly tie to a deck’s overall success within a format.

Here are some examples:

The GOAT – Chris Welch’s Winning Hiru Storm List

Fu 7 – 1, 1
FDC – 1, 1, 1
Nimbus – 1, 1, 1
Planet Vegeta – 1, 1, 1
Progenitor – 1, 1, 1, 1
Grandpa – 1, 1
Will of Iron – 1, 1

To set the stage we have to start with the deck that truly started it all in terms of Actions Per Turn and Average Converted Energy Cost – Hiru Storm comes in at 0.38 with its max potential being a total cost of 19 out of 50 cards. This is just raw counting, but if you then put Bean and Unyielding into the mix where they each net an energy, you can truly see how utterly broken this deck was and will always be.

Pre B&R Vegeks

Trunks OR – 1, 1, 1, 1
Dark Power Black Masked Saiyan – 1, 1, 1, 1
Power Burst – 1, 1, 1
Extinction Attack – 1, 1, 1
Splintering Mind – 1, 1, 1, 1
HPESK – 1, 1, 1

If there is any reason Trunks, Elite Descendant had to go here is why – ACEC of 0.42 (max potential w/ a total cost of 21 out of 50 cards). This level of efficiency is simply unmatched, even by OG Storm.

Red Broly

Vampa – 1, 1
Violent Rays – 1, 1
Unison – 1, 1, 1, 1
Broly 1 drop (7 copies & Free 60% of time) – 1, 1, 1
Broly 4 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Broly 5 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Broly 6 – 1, 1, 1
Paragus (Free 60% of the time) – 1

With an ACEC of 0.46 (max potential when 1 drop Broly and Paragus are free 60% of the time 23/50) – Red Broly clearly sets the pace for the rest of the format in S11, and heading into S12. This means that if you’re trying to compete your ACEC needs to be close, or a single one of your cards has to generate just as much value or more in order to keep pace in a given game. This is why at 3xG we stress the importance of floodgates and other X for 1’s since as the game continues to scale this way our philosophy and approach to deck building and meta gaming has to change as well.

Majin Vegeta

Zarbuto – 1, 1
Dormant – 1, 1
Majin Vegeta 3 (Leader Skill) – 1, 1, 1
Babidi – 1, 1, 1, 1
Majin Buu 7 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Death Ball – 1, 1
Focused Breakthrough – 1, 1
Majin Vegeta 1 – 1, 1, 1, 1

Majin Vegeta went on quite the streak in a large number of series 11 events and garnered a ton of respect along the way. This list ALSO comes in at an ACEC of 0.46 (max potential of 23/50). Pretty easy to tell why this deck ended up being so successful – it really only loses to itself.


Mechikabura – 2
2 Cost Unisons – 2, 2, 2, 2, 2
5 Cost Gotenks – 3, 3
Death Ball (Sparking 50% or time) – 1
Zamasu – 1, 1
Ribrianne – 2, 2
Gohan – 2, 2
Roshi – 1, 1, 1
Gokule – 1, 1, 1, 1
Reaper of Justice – 2, 2, 2, 2

Green Gotenks was definitely a gatekeeper deck in the series 11 format came in at 0.88 (Total energy cost of 44 in a 50 card deck). Gotenks was definitely the perfect combination of disruption alongside relatively cheap, powerful threats and led it to being the #1 mid-range deck of series 11 format.

Red Gogeta

Gotenks Unison – 2, 2, 2, 2
Gogeta 5 – 3, 3, 3, 3
Birth of a Super Warrior – 1, 1, 1, 1
Violent Rays – 1, 1, 1
Toppo – 2, 2, 2
Gogeta, Time for Payback – 3, 3, 3

Red Gogeta came in at 0.84 (total energy costs adding up to 42 out of 50 cards). With Gogeta having just a slight edge over Gotenks, why did it underperform? Too many 3 cost cards which allowed for the more defensive blue decks to setup shop, and Dormant Potential Unleashed is much more powerful than Violent Rays in a format where Vegeks was S Tier.

How Some Series 12 Builds Stack Up

Post B&R Vegeks Weenies ACEC is 0.48 (max potential w/ a total cost of 24/50)

Goku 1 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Vegeta 1 – 1, 1, 1
Kai of Time SCR – 1
Dark Power Black Masked Saiyan – 1, 1, 1, 1
Power Burst – 1, 1, 1, 1
Extinction Attack – 1, 1, 1, 1
HPESK – 1, 1, 1, 1

This version of Vegeks is my personal favorite in early S12 testing due to how well it keeps the ACEC down and enables the early awakening to turn the Unison into another lethal threat to go aside your weenies and leader plus HPESK.

King Piccolo’s ACEC is 0.56 (max potential w/ a total cost of 28/50)

3x Violent Rays – 1, 1, 1
4x Unison – 2, 2, 2, 2
4x Piccolo 6 – 1, 1, 1, 1
3x Piccolo 4 – 1, 1, 1
4x Piccolo 1 – 1, 1, 1, 1,
2x Piano 1- 1, 1
4x Attack of the Demon Clan – 1, 1, 1, 1

King Piccolo hasn’t been hyped up enough and Frisco’s brew will definitely change your mind. All of the threats in your deck cost 1 or less and the Leader acts as the engine for the machine – that always is a huge boon when it comes to these aggro/combo archetypes.

Whis’s ACEC is 0.70 (max potential w/ a total cost of 35/50)

Max Power – 1
Vados Unison – 2, 2, 2, 2
Goku 3 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Vegeta 3 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Beerus – 1, 1
Whis 1 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Nimbus – 1, 1
Restrain – 1
Tyrannical Blow – 1, 1
Cooler – 3
Vegeta Unison – 2, 2

We step slightly down in when it comes to ACEC, but Whis is quite potent with the ability to present free 15k’s each turn and can leverage the leader and Vados Unison to again act as the engine for the deck.

Syn Shenron’s ACEC is 0.72 (max potential w/ a total cost of 36/50

Mechikabura Unison – 4, 4. 4
Syn 9 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Syn 4 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Syn 1 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Eis – 1, 1, 1
Omega SR – 1, 1, 1
Nuova – 1, 1, 1
Nimbus – 1, 1, 1

Syn Shenron’s cost is deceptive due to the Unison. If you were to cut the card all together the average ACEC would then dip to 0.48 (24/50) – which when thinking about a tanky mid-range/control archetype is pretty wild. This deck fines Syn Shenron 1 drop consistently, has new tools to keep it alive, and has the ability to get into the red zone early to make that turn 6 leader activation a guaranteed kill.

Shroom & Salsa’s ACEC is 1.04 (max potential w/ a total cost of 52/50

Mechikabura (Leader Skill) – 1, 1, 1
Tenacious – 1, 1
Gravy Skill-less (Leader Skill) – 1, 1
Dabura Unison – 1, 1
Masked King – 4, 4, 4
Towa 1 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Shroom 5 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Shroom Skill-less – 1, 1, 1
Salsa 5 – 1, 1, 1, 1
Salsa Skill-less – 1, 1, 1
Kai of Time SCR – 1
Dark Power Black Masked Saiyan – 1, 1, 1
Power Burst – 1, 1, 1
Protector of the People – 1, 1, 1
HPESK – 1, 1, 1

A deck that a lot of folks think is hyper competitive, Shroom and Salsa offer one of the highest ACEC’s so far due to the preferred finisher costing 4 and just the amount of cards that have a 1 energy requirement to be played. Don’t get me wrong, the deck is quite efficient with the amount of 1’s it plays – but ultimately the lack of “free” just leaves a lot to be desired in comparison to the decks listed above.

Context Always Matters

ACEC is a fantastic metric to keep track of when deck building and trying to determine the viability of newer and older archetypes whenever a set comes out – just don’t forget that context always matters when determining a deck’s overall success and sometimes there are additional factors such as leader abilities that can contribute to a deck’s ability to manipulate its ACEC such as Soul Striker or Vegito.

Even when approaching those decks, keeping track of ACEC is the best way to figure out your overall potential for Actions Per Turn and of course how you can best respond to whatever your opponent does if they are on one of the better decks in regards to ACEC. This is such an important thing to learn in DBS due to how games tend to snowball so quickly. If what your deck is attempting to do cannot trade up/evenly or completely mitigate what your opponent is trying to do – then it is time to move onto a different build and work on increasing your max potential.

Another great example of context mattering took place just this past format with the lack of Red Broly being played causing the whole entire format to not turnover as it potentially should have (in theory):

If Red Broly is level 1 – Syn Shenron is the natural predator at level 2
If level 2 is Syn Shenron – Vegeks puts the work in at 3
Gotenks and Dormant are level 4 – Dark Broly eats it at 5
Heroic and Baby Hatch at 6 – Invoker eats at 7
Red Broly then turns it back over

Instead the format changed into:

Vegeks is level 1 – Green Gotenks and Dormant is level 2
Dark Broly beats up on Gotenks and Dormant at level 3
Heroic Prospect and Baby Hatch are level 4
Invoker is level 5 – Red Broly is the natural predator at 6
Syn Shenron is 7 – Vegeks then turns the format back over

Absolutely wild how just lack of promos takes Syn Shenron from level 2 down to level 7, and the same with Red Broly going down from 1 to 6. Your deck choices for the first and last weeks of the format are just so wildly different – that is pretty neat when you start to look at it that way. I know it is just numbers shifting around, but the amount of reads or meta calls that can be made just changes so much in each system. PS I love this shit.

Unisons are Gud, but 1 Cost Unisons are Gudder

As we talked about earlier on, Unisons have had such a huge impact on the game – especially when it comes to ACEC. The ability to enable free counter: play battle cards and other free effects helps drive the cost of your deck down so much and of course enables a higher number of potential actions on both players’ turns. 1 cost Unisons are the “new” Lebron James of DBS – they do it all, they do it better, and they do it more efficiently than anyone else.

In my honest opinion, Unisons that cost more than 2 (outside of Mechikabura due to the Syn Shenron archetype) are now unplayable.

***Note that Soul Striker and SS3 make 3 cost Unisons either 1 or 0… which is absurd***


The release of series 12 is truly going to do a lot to the current format – we all need to adapt and start thinking with a different mentality as we approach competitive play and deck building in general. Consistency and efficiency are just so much more important now than before due to the power level of the engines being released and just how crucial the first 3 turns of the game are now. Your deck needs to be built either with the intention of doing the most possible in the first 3 turns, or doing something powerful enough in the first 3 turns to trade up/evenly or completely mitigate what the opposing player is trying to accomplish.

The game has changed and of course the world around us has as well, but one thing still remains the same:

Me inhales:

This game and community is truly there best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be. Stay safe and stay hungry.

Thank you for everything – I love you all.

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Giant Force Brews: PUMP UP THE JAM!!!

Shenron’s Lair Deck List

FINALLY!!! We can brew some sweet decks with some new crads!!! There comes a time every set where new cards are released and you then have to look back on the past to see if there are any old leaders or cards that best synergize with the new, shiny things. This time around, Broly//Broly, Evil Unleashed answered the call.

The Jams

Music Box is the JUICE. You search the top 7 for basically whatever you want, including a 1 drop Unison, and then you have an [activate: main] for (G) that allows you to sacrifice it to play a Tapion or Minotia (Usually, always Minotia). This is the start of your engine.

The Pieces

Tapion, Fate of a Hero fills a few roles – copies 4-8 of Music Box, a blocker/cantrip, and additionally can be discarded to trigger revive on 9 drop Hirudegarn from Db6.

Minotia, Unsealed Hero is truly the hero – as stated above, you’re going to sac your Music Box for Minotia always in order to start your chain.

Hirudegarn, Giant Force is, aside from your leader and Hoi, the most consistent enabler in the deck.

Sweep the Leg

Once you sac your Minotia, you’re going straight into Phantom Limbs who can again be removed or KO’d to take you up the chain.

Hirudegarn, Phantasmic Revival then comes down and has an [auto] that allows you to disrupt the combo step, and additionally again can be removed or KO’d to go up the chain again. The caveat here is that you need 3 or more energy for this effect.

Hirudegarn, Phantasmic Evolution is SNAPPED. 25k Critical that can EX-Evolve for free on top of the 4 drop, and then when it is removed or KO’d lets you go back into a 4, but more importantly go into the 9 drop from DB6. The thing that really puts it over the top is the [Activate: Battle] to KO it, allowing you to go up the chain, or make your opponent discard to cards, to then KO up to 2 of your opponent’s battle cards… [ACTIVATE: BATTLE]… RIGHT!?

Reoccurring Nightmares

Hoi, Hidden Ambition is a messed up card. The ability to enable your chain on both players’ turns through the combo step is absurd. This sets up some pretty gross plays where you have a 4 on board, with 3 energy on the opponent’s turn. You can then combo Hoi, sac the 4 drop, go into the 6, [Activate: Battle] to KO it and then KO 2 of your opponent’s battle cards, and then go into the 9 drop!!! BUSTED!!!

Of course we have Hirudegarn, the Reoccurring Nightmare which is finally the [Revival] payoff we deserve. Whenever you activate blocker your opponent will have to discard a card, and of course once it gets revived you can activate it again for some top tier defense.

Lastly, we have Ultimate AoD Broly SCR that is EASILY played in this deck due to all of the enablers. The perfect ending to the biggest hit single of ALL-TIME!!!


For the casual/competitive, Johnny players out there… this deck is a club banger. You have nearly flawless synergy with the leader and the engine and a deck that dodges the majority of counter: play within the format, which is huge. For those looking to make the most out of the Giant Force release, this deck is a great investment for both the kitchen table, and even some competitive events as well!

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The Darkest and Fairest Lad

Look up user “McFly2015” on Shenron’s Lair for all lists!!!

A lot of talk has been hitting the boards since preview season began about Dark Broly and what its place would be in the upcoming format. The deck is incredibly fun and ends up being quite rewarding for the pilot; so much so, the skill of the pilot can take the deck from the depths of tier 2 up to tier 1/1.5, depending on the match-up spread across your Swiss rounds.

Why is this Deck Fun?/Why is it Worth Playing?

To shed some more light on why this question matters, it is important to shed light on the fact that my new way of engaging in the DBSCG in paper form relies on me finding a single deck from the newest set and it being my go-to for the duration of the format. Additionally, I also am in the process of selling everything else that doesn’t really appeal to me. In series 10 that deck was Syn Shenron. I love how smart that deck makes me feel and how minor deviations in decision making and deck building leads to results in given match-ups. I also enjoy how it has a true end game with the YYYYYY ability on the awakened side to summon the dragon boys! Lastly, the Shadow Dragon Saga is by far one of my most favorite of all-time in regards to the Dragon Ball franchise.

In series 11, the deck I chose ended up being Dark Broly. It certainly isn’t the best by any means, but I truly love decks that allow me to manipulate multiple zones during a game. I feel it gives my decisions more weight, even just the decision of playing 27 or more 30ks vs 26 or less (the choice is always 27 or more btw). I enjoy the ability to make slight deviations based on a given match-up to gain value that all adds up to me trying to win the game. Dark Broly offers all of that and more!

***Thanks to recent pricing, I have also foiled both of these out :)***

The deck has an engine that is easy to assemble, but early on in your games there are a lot of decision points that get created based on the opponent – when to take life with your leader skill, do I lead on Towa to get a 2nd ball, how do I properly play around X, how do I make what my opponent is planning to do worse… the list is seemingly endless with this deck. The sequencing also is really important on your turns because you’re constantly trying to dance around landmines while giving your opponent the least amount of information possible.

Priorities – Towa, Union of Magic and Science/Savage Rush

When you’re creating your initial lists and playing your first games, it becomes fairly clear that the Union of Magic and Science is one of, if not the, most important cards in the deck. Due to your leader skill allowing you to see extra cards and set up your drop area, it is way more important to have Towa + Ball on turn 1 than it is to have Savage Rush on turn 1. Additionally, this also impacts the way I tend to mulligan. If my opener has a Towa and/or Savage Rush + Ball, I will keep those cards plus any card that isn’t a 30k in order to optimize my flips off of the leader’s front side skill.

When to Play New Masked Saiyan, Berserker, and Realm Ravager

New Masked Saiyan – first one down against aggro/aggro-mid, also acts as the last one you play each turn once the engine is online. Don’t forget that once awakened you can activate blocker and then to get full value you can combo it even with it in rest mode.

Berserker – usually the last one to come down, unless there is a threat that needs to be addressed in the moment.

Realm Ravager – first one down against mid-range/control-mid. Also, has the most utility against decks that interact with their drop area – Gogeta, Gotenks, Dredgeku, Syn Shenron, etc.

Towa, Dark Aura Deluge – “Toolbox”

When first reading this version of Towa it is really unclear how it is supposed to impact the deck’s overall strategy. That is until you realize it serves as a toolbox for any 30k battle card you could possibly need in a moment’s notice. The ability to clear away something that is non-essential in exchange for the perfect card in the moment is what grindy, mid-range decks dream of. That is why we can afford to play 1 of’s like Mira, Assault from the Skies and SS4 Bardock, Combat Instincts as additional, reliable ways to close various types of games. SS4 Bardock/hand destruction ends up being a solid plan against a lot of the closer to “fair” archetypes within the format – so having access to it at a moments notice is wildly impactful. The same goes for times where you need a hyper efficient double striker to pressure the opponent whilst still enabling yourself some defense with Mira. Lastly, we can buy back Brainwashed No More to help stave off decks that are trying to kill you with one giant attack.

And with DB6, Giant Force, we will have the new Demigra Over Realm – in testing already the card is ABSURD.


I have been seeing a lot of comments on the deck and some folks have been cutting the Unison completely – do not do it. The Unison fixes a lot of the deck’s worst draws and also creates a lot of pressure on the opponent that they aren’t even aware of if they leave it there. It combining with your leader ability to bring 5 cards back from warp is exactly what this deck wants to be doing. Your drop area acts as not only your second hand, but it also acts as your resource engine as well – and don’t forget the toolbox you have with Towa. The Unison is also a great way to play around counters and floodgates when you’re trying to go for game with that FDC in your hand. Lastly, the -4 is DEVASTATING.


Play the decks you enjoy playing and enjoy Dragon Ball the way you want to. We often get too bogged down by only focusing on the most competitive aspects of the game, but there truly is so much to explore and enjoy. Be smart about purchasing cards and don’t overextend yourself trying to collect all of the top decks, including promos. There are answers to virtually every top deck which is really refreshing. Honestly, there seems to be a lot of ways to pivot in the series 11 environment, so enjoy it while you can. Lastly, you can expect some DB6 brews popping up reaaaallllll soon!!!

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